Come, Holy Ghost, Creator blest,
and in our souls take up Thy rest;
come with Thy grace and heavenly aid
to fill the hearts which Thou hast made.
O comforter, to Thee we cry,
O heavenly gift of God Most High,
O fount of life and fire of love,
and sweet anointing from above.
Thou in Thy sevenfold gifts are known;
Thou, finger of God's hand we own;
Thou, promise of the Father, Thou
Who dost the tongue with power imbue.
Kindle our sense from above,
and make our hearts o'erflow with love;
with patience firm and virtue high
the weakness of our flesh supply.
Far from us drive the foe we dread,
and grant us Thy peace instead;
so shall we not, with Thee for guide,
turn from the path of life aside.
Oh, may Thy grace on us bestow
the Father and the Son to know;
and Thee, through endless times confessed,
of both the eternal Spirit blest.
Now to the Father and the Son,
Who rose from death, be glory given,
with Thou, O Holy Comforter,
henceforth by all in earth and heaven. Amen.
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What Catholics Believe: The Blessed Virgin Mary
On Catholic Debate Forum some time ago, a woman who seems to be wavering between her Protestant beliefs and the Catholic Church she says she grew up around, made a passing comment about how wonderful it is to be able to pray to Mary. A Protestant, uneducated in the Catholic doctrines concerning Mary, decided she just had to chime in and make comments about how it was not biblical to pray to Mary. She said that since Jesus didn't say any such prayer, like He did the Lord's Prayer, then it must not be true. It is painfully obvious that she did not think her statement through. Mary was not in Heaven when Jesus was teaching His followers how to pray to God as their Father. Since Mary was still alive when her Son was on earth, all He would have to do is turn to her and ask her to pray for Him. Now, Mary is in Heaven with Jesus, and all Mary has to do is turn to her Son when we ask her to pray for us. Huge big problem in Protestant "logic" when trying to analyze Catholic doctrine concerning Mary is that they frequently compare apples to oranges. We pray to the Blessed Virgin (and the other saints, too) asking her to pray for us since she is so close to God and part of the same family to which we belong. Jesus is God, so the Protestant's point is moot, as He has no need to ask anyone to pray for Him.
Now, what do Catholics believe about Mary? Here are my personal top ten.
1) Mary is the Mother of God.
2) Mary is wholly united with her Son, Jesus.
3) She is the spouse of the Holy Spirit.
4) She is the queen of Heaven.
5) Mary is venerated, not worshiped.
6) Mary is a model of the Church.
7) Mary is a model for Christians.
8) Mary is the Immaculate Conception.
9) Mary has a special part in the order of grace.
10) Mary has and does make special appearances on Earth--called apparitions.
Here is a presentation of each point:
1) Mary is the mother of God.
Jesus is God. Mary is the Mother of Jesus, therefore, Mary is the Mother of God.
No, Catholics do not believe Mary to be the progenitor of the Blessed Trinity. That never was, nor never will be the claim of the Church.
"Called in the Gospels "the mother of Jesus", Mary is acclaimed by Elizabeth, at the prompting of the Spirit and even before the birth of her son, as "the mother of my Lord". In fact, the One whom she conceived as man by the Holy Spirit, who truly became her Son according to the flesh, was none other than the Father's eternal Son, the second person of the Holy Trinity. Hence the Church confesses that Mary is truly "Mother of God" (Theotokos)." --Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) 495.The above statement from the Catechism succinctly states why we call her "Mother of God." The Orthodox church honors her as the "Theotokos" or God-bearer. I don't know about other people but I introduce the woman who carried me in her womb as "mother." I don't call her 'mother of my body' or "my bearer" because she did not create my soul. No, I call her "mother." In the same way, we call the bearer of Jesus (the second Person of the Trinity) the "Mother of God" for that is what Jesus is--God.
"For in the first place no common man was born of the holy Virgin; then the Word thus descended upon him; but being united from the womb itself he is said to have endured a generation in the flesh in order to appropriate the producing of His own body. Thus [the holy Fathers] did not hesitate to speak of the holy Virgin as Mother of God." --Council of Ephesus, AD 431.It is a belief that was thought over, fought over, and decided very early in the Church. She is in reality the "Mother of God" not mother of an ordinary man or just His body. She bore the second Person of the Blessed Trinity in her womb.
"And the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us, and we saw his glory, the glory as of the Father’s only Son, full of grace and truth." John 1:14
The Church stated in Lumen Gentium (LG) (or Dogmatic Constitution on the Church) in chapter VIII, "Our Lady":"This is how you can know the Spirit of God: every spirit that acknowledges Jesus Christ come in the flesh belongs to God..." I John 4:2
"The Virgin Mary, who at the message of the angel received the Word of God in her heart and in her body and brought forth life to the world, is acknowledged as truly the mother of God and of the Redeemer." (LG 52)
2) Mary is wholly united with her Son.
[Mary is] "Redeemed, in a more exalted fashion, by reason of the merits of her Son and united to him by a close and indissoluble tie, she is endowed with the high office and dignity of being the mother of the Son of God, and therefore she is also the beloved daughter of the Father and the temple of the holy Spirit.
"Mary's role in the Church is inseparable from her union with Christ and flows directly from it. 'This union of the mother with the Son in the work of salvation is made manifest from the time of Christ's virginal conception up to His death; [LG 57] it is made manifest above all at the hour of his Passion:
At a general audience in October 1995, Pope St. John Paul II stated:
- Thus the Blessed Virgin advanced in her pilgrimage of faith, and faithfully persevered in her union with her Son unto the cross. There she stood, in keeping with the divine plan, enduring with her only begotten Son the intensity of his suffering, joining herself with his sacrifice in her mother's heart, and lovingly consenting to the immolation of this victim, born of her: to be given, by the same Christ Jesus dying on the cross, as a mother to his disciple, with these words: "Woman, behold your son.' [LG 58; cf. John26-27] (CCC 964)
Mary is united to Christ in the whole work of Redemption, sharing, according to God's plan, in the Cross and suffering for our salvation. She remained united to the Son "in every deed, attitude and wish" (cf. Life of Mary, Bol. 196, f. 122 v.). Mary's association with Jesus' saving work came about through her Mother's love, a love inspired by grace, which conferred a higher power on it: love freed of passion proves to be the most compassionate (cf. ibid., Bol. 196, f. 123 v.).
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Annunciation by Murillo, 17th cent. |
Mary was "overshadowed" by the Holy Spirit (Luke 1:35). She conceived Jesus by Him. How else could we express in human terms the relationship between the Holy Spirit and Mary but spousal. Although every woman is a cooperator with God in the miracle of creation, Mary's cooperation was a much deeper one. She gave her whole self in her "yes" to God. This is the type of "yes" God expects us to give in the marriage Sacrament, when two become one. Mary truly became one with God.
“My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord; my spirit rejoices in God my savior. For he has looked upon his handmaid’s lowliness; behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed. The Mighty One has done great things for me, and holy is his name. His mercy is from age to age to those who fear him. He has shown might with his arm, dispersed the arrogant of mind and heart. He has thrown down the rulers from their thrones but lifted up the lowly. The hungry he has filled with good things; the rich he has sent away empty. He has helped Israel his servant, remembering his mercy, according to his promise to our fathers, to Abraham and to his descendants forever.” (Mary's "Magnificat", Luke 1:46-55)
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The Crowning of the Virgin by the Trinity, Velazquez |
"A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." --Revelation 12:1
The logic of this title escapes a lot of well-meaning Christians. By virtue the fact that Christ is the King of the Universe, Mary is the Queen Mother. Just as Queen Elizabeth's Mother was called "Queen Mother", so Mary merits the title. And, like her title as the "Mother of God", "Queen of Heaven" is appropriate and true.We have a foreshadowing of this relationship in King Solomon and his mother, Bathsheba. Solomon had many wives because of the tradition of taking wives of royal families for peace and trade treaties. The nation of Israel wanted a king "like all the other nations" and they certainly achieved that. Who was to be his queen? His hostess? He couldn't have a favorite and cause strife in the royal household. Bathsheba, his mother, Queen mother fulfilled those duties. I Kings chapter shows an incident of someone coming to her to beg a favor of her son, King Solomon. It shows that she was the acknowledged queen; the one anyone should talk to if they wanted something from the king. In the same way we can go to Blessed Virgin Mary when we want to ask the King for His mercy and favor.
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Our Lady of Grace from an old prayer card |
The first person to venerate Mary was her cousin, Elizabeth.
When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the infant leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth, filled with the holy Spirit, cried out in a loud voice and said, “Most blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb. And how does this happen to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For at the moment the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the infant in my womb leaped for joy. Blessed are you who believed that what was spoken to you by the Lord would be fulfilled.” Luke 1:41-45
Mary is considered the first of the saints because of her role in the economy of salvation. She bore the second Person of the Blessed Trinity in her body. She was Christ's first disciple. She is the Queen Mother, as Christ is the King of the Universe.
"Mary has by grace been exalted above all angels and humanity to a place after her Son, as the most holy mother of God who was involved in the mysteries of Christ: she is rightly honored with a special cult by the church."
"This cult, as it has always existed, in the Church, while it is totally extraordinary, it yet differs essentially from the cult of adoration which is offered equally to the Incarnate Word and to the Father and the Holy Spirit, and is most favorable to this adoration. The various forms of piety towards the Mother of God which, within the limits of sound and orthodox doctrine,...ensure that while the mother is honored, the Son through whom all things have their being and in whom it has pleased the Father that "all fullness should dwell" rightly known, loved and glorified and his commandments are observed." [both quotes from Lumen Gentium (LG), Chapter VIII, para 66.This is essentially saying that there has always been a following of Mary, but it has always come in second place the adoration and worship of God--Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Despite the anachronistic accusations of many anti-Catholics, praying to Mary is not worshiping her. I, personally, have a difficult time in understanding how to a) hold onto a heritage that includes perfectly legitimate language while at the same time b) not sounding as if Catholics have to justify that perfectly legitimate language to the willfully ignorant. To pray does include other meanings aside from the worship of God. The current Merriam-Webster online Dictionary has this definition of pray:
transitive verb 1: entreat, implore —often used as a function word in introducing a question, request, or plea; pray be careful; 2: to get or bring by praying
intransitive verb 1: to make a request in a humble manner 2: to address God or a god with adoration, confession, supplication, or thanksgiving
Examples of PRAY: 1. There's little else to do now but hope and pray. 2. The minister said, “Let us pray.” 3. He prayed that they would have the strength to go on. 4. He prayed that he would find a parking spot.
Origin of PRAYAny educated person can see that "pray" has had and still has more than one meaning. It is not just a wording meaning worship or adoration or praising God. What is that pray tell? No, I am not worshiping you.
Middle English, from Anglo-French prier, praer, preier, from Latin precari, from prec-, prex request, prayer; akin to Old High German frāga question, frāgēn to ask, Sanskrit pṛcchati he asks
As for the kneeling, I kneel to weed my garden; I do not worship my flowers. I kneel to scrub the floor; I am not worshiping linoleum. There is a purpose for kneeling, but kneeling is not reserved just for worshiping God. Kneeling in supplication to God in Church is for us; it humbles us before God. Kneeling in prayer to Mary helps us quiet our body and our mind in asking the mother of Our Lord to pray for us to her Son. So, when a Catholic prays a Rosary on their knees they are not worshiping Mary, they are praying through her to her Son, Jesus. If one cares to investigate how Jesus is actually the co-star, as it were, of the Rosary, one may find this research on the Rosary done by David MacDonald of Catholic Bridge interesting.
Some important dates connected to remember because they are holy days of obligation are: January 1, the solemnity of Mary, the Mother of God; August 15, the Assumption of Mary; December 8, the Immaculate Conception of Mary (not moved to Sunday because Mary Immaculate is the Patroness of the United States), and, of course, Christmas, December 25th.
Other important feast days (though not obligations) are: February 2, the Presentation of Jesus at the Temple; March 25, the Annunciation; May 31, the Visitation; August 22, the Queenship of Mary; September 8, Mary's birthday; September 12, the most holy name of Mary; November 21, the presentation of Mary at the Temple; May is the month of Mary; and October is the month of the Rosary.
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Pentecote [Pentecost] by Jean II Restout 1732 |
"The Church becomes a mother, taking Mary as her model. In this regard the Council says: "The Church in deed, contemplating her hidden sanctity, imitating her charity and faithfully fulfilling the Father's will, by receiving the Word of God in faith becomes herself a mother. By preaching and Baptism she brings forth sons, who are conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of God, to a new and immortal life" (LG 64).
Analyzing this description of the Church's maternal work, we can note how the Christian's birth is linked here in a certain way to the birth of Jesus, as though a reflection of it: Christians are "conceived by the Holy Spirit", and therefore their birth, the fruit of preaching and Baptism, resembles the Saviour's.
Moreover, in contemplating Mary, the Church imitates her charity, her faithful acceptance of the Word of God and her docility in fulfilling the Father's will. By following the Blessed Virgin's example, she achieves a fruitful spiritual motherhood. (Pope St. John Paul II, Mary is Model for Church's Motherhood, Section 3.)St. John Paul II explained this point extremely well. The Church must imitate Mary's charity and "her faithful acceptance of the Word of God." There is nothing more important than having the Church as our Mother. We have God as our Father and the Church as our Mother. Those of us who have a true passion for Christ's Church are working hard in making sure the Church becomes more like Mary.
7) Mary is a model for Christians.
From the Church he [the Christian] learns the example of holiness and recognizes its model and source in the all-holy Virgin Mary...." (CCC 2030)Mary was there from the first moment of His Conception, to every aspect of His public ministry, through His suffering, death, and burial to His joyful Resurrection. She was there in the upper room when the fulfillment of Christ's promise, to send a comforter, was fulfilled and the Apostles and Mary received the Holy Spirit. (See LG 58) She was there for it all and she is an example for us all. She believed His words; she believed His promises. She followed Him with the undying faith that we all should have.
"...the followers of Christ still strive to increase in holiness by conquering sin.(300) And so they turn their eyes to Mary who shines forth to the whole community of the elect as the model of virtues....For Mary, who since her entry into salvation history unites in herself and re-echoes the greatest teachings of the faith as she is proclaimed and venerated, calls the faithful to her Son and His sacrifice and to the love of the Father." (LG 65)She is the model for us in virtue and our call to her Son. If we were to model our lives after the example of Mary's complete giving of self to God, we, too, will be prepared to meet Him in Heaven.
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Immaculate Conception by Murillo 1678 |
First, in talking about the Immaculate Conception, one must clear up a major misconception, namely that the Immaculate Conception is not the Virgin Birth of Jesus. One could say that Jesus was born with an immaculate soul. However, the title Immaculate Conception refers to Mary, the mother of Jesus. This, in simple terms, means that Mary was the one person since before "The Fall" that received an immaculate soul--free of Original Sin.
"To become the mother of the Savior, Mary "was enriched by God with gifts appropriate to such a role."132 The angel Gabriel at the moment of the annunciation salutes her as "full of grace".133 In fact, in order for Mary to be able to give the free assent of her faith to the announcement of her vocation, it was necessary that she be wholly borne by God's grace." [CCC 490; 132 LG 56. 133 Lk 1:28.]
This grace was not given to her because of anything she did but was a gift to her for her future "yes." Now, how do we explain this concept? Jesus, because He is God is not bound by time. Yes, He voluntarily became man in time and space for a very short time on Earth. However, Scripture makes it quite clear that He is God and has all the attributes of God. By virtue of Mary's saying "yes" to God she was gifted an immaculate (or completely spotless) soul.
"The "splendor of an entirely unique holiness" by which Mary is "enriched from the first instant of her conception" comes wholly from Christ: she is "redeemed, in a more exalted fashion, by reason of the merits of her Son".136 The Father blessed Mary more than any other created person "in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places" and chose her "in Christ before the foundation of the world, to be holy and blameless before him in love"." 137 [CCC 492; 136 LG 53, 56. 137 Cf. Eph 1:3-4.]
9) Mary has a special part in the order of grace.
This means she was full of God's life (grace). She literally had God inside her. There could be no more special way in which one could have God's life in you. She therefore has a special part in the order of grace.
"This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation . . . .
"Mary's function as mother of men in no way obscures or diminishes this unique mediation of Christ, but rather shows its power." (CCC 969, 970)
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Our Lady of Kibeho |
An apparition is defined as an appearance of Jesus, Mary, or another saint which may include a message to the person(s) who experiences the apparition. While most people think that the Vatican or a council of bishops must approve an apparition, it is actually the responsibility of the bishop (the ordinary) of the diocese in which the apparition occurs. As a result there are many conflicting reports on just how many Marian apparitions are "approved". However, many times the pope has made an official approval of certain apparitions, but he is usually putting his stamp of approval, so to speak, on apparitions approved by the local ordinary (bishop). As far as this author can find, there is no comprehensive, up to date list of all "approved" Marian apparitions. ("Approved" is defined as "worthy of belief by the Christian faithful" but by no means is it obligatory to do so.) Some of those "approved" by proper Church authority are Our Lady of Guadalupe (1531), Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal (1830), Our Lady of LaSalette (1846), "Immaculate Conception" or Our Lady of Lourdes (1858), Pontmain (1871), Our Lady of Knock (1879) at Knock, Ireland, "Our Lady of the Rosary" aka Our Lady of Fatima (1917), Beauraing (1932-33), Belgium, Banneux (1933), Belgium, Our Lady of Kibeho also known as "Mary, Mother of the Word" (1981), Rwanda.
This is not a complete list, but I plan to address some of these Marian apparitions in a future post.
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So, there you have it--some basics on Mary. These are my personal Top 10. There could be things I didn't touch on or forgot to include. This is not meant as a comprehensive treatise on the Blessed Virgin, but a starting point for non-Catholics (perhaps Catholics, too) in understanding who is this Mary, the mother of our Savior.
Further Reading:
Catechism of the Catholic Church, Part I, Section 2, Chapter 3, Paragraph 6. Mary--Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church.
Churches teachings on Mary, EWTN index on various teachings.
General Audiences: Teaching of John Paul II on the Blessed Virgin Mary, Pope St. John Paul II, various dates.
Redemptoris Mater (or On the Blessed Virgin Mary in the Life of the Pilgrim Church), Pope St. John Paul II, March 25, 1987.
Rosarium Virginis Mariae (or Apostolic Letter on the Most Holy Rosary), Pope St. John Paul II, Oct. 16, 2002.
Marialis Cultus (or Apostolic Exhortation For the Right Ordering and Development of Devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary), Pope Paul VI, Feb. 2, 1974.
It Is Pentecost Sunday!
Happy Birthday to the Catholic Church!
It is today that we celebrate the descent of the Holy Ghost upon the Apostles and the Blessed Virgin, and they go forth into the world, preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ! From the time of the Resurrection (Easter) until the Ascension Jesus remained with the Apostles, teaching them what they needed to build His Church, upon which they were the foundations. Of all the "churches" of the world, only Catholicism and Orthodoxy can trace their roots all the way to the Apostles and Christ through valid bishopric succession. No other "church" can validly make this claim!What Is The Unforgivable Sin?
Scripture tells us there IS a sin which cannot be forgiven:
The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains it this way:
St. Augustine says:
31 Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven.32 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come. (Matthew 12:31-32)
28 Amen I say to you, that all sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and the blasphemies wherewith they shall blaspheme:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost, shall never have forgiveness, but shall be guilty of an everlasting sin. (Mark 3:28-29)The answer would be "final impenitence," that is - an obstinate refusal to seek forgiveness of mortal sin which one knows and recognizes as mortal sin. This is blaspheme for it is a direct denial of the healing power of the Holy Ghost. To knowingly not seek such reconciliation is a sin against the Holy Ghost and to do so with such finality that one does not seek this up to and through death makes it unforgivable.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains it this way:
CCC 1864 "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin." There are no limits to the mercy of God, but anyone who deliberately refuses to accept his mercy by repenting, rejects the forgiveness of his sins and the salvation offered by the Holy Spirit. Such hardness of heart can lead to final impenitence and eternal loss.St. Thomas Aquinas offers several arguments in the Summa Theologica, but it seems summed up in the conclusion the CCC (above) makes:
According to the various interpretations of the sin against the Holy Ghost, there are various ways in which it may be said that it cannot be forgiven. For if by the sin against the Holy Ghost we understand final impenitence, it is said to be unpardonable, since in no way is it pardoned: because the mortal sin wherein a man perseveres until death will not be forgiven in the life to come, since it was not remitted by repentance in this life.Final impenitence - the refusal to seek forgiveness of ones sins.
St. Augustine says:
"(Enchiridion lxxxiii) that 'he who dies in a state of obstinacy is guilty of the sin against the Holy Ghost,' and (De Verb. Dom., Serm. lxxi) that 'impenitence is a sin against the Holy Ghost,' and (De Serm. Dom. in Monte xxii), that 'to resist fraternal goodness with the brands of envy is to sin against the Holy Ghost,' and in his book De unico Baptismo (De Bap. contra Donat. vi, 35) he says that 'a man who spurns the truth, is either envious of his brethren to whom the truth is revealed, or ungrateful to God, by Whose inspiration the Church is taught,' and therefore, seemingly, sins against the Holy Ghost" (ST 2b:14:2, Sed Contra)." (Qtd. on: http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/UNFORGIV.HTM - an article by James Akin).Again, final impenitence is concluded to be the sin against the Holy Ghost for which there is no forgiveness. It is a final and unforgivable sin because to not seek reconciliation for mortal sin in this life means it is not forgiven in this life - and if not forgiven in this life, it will not be forgiven in the next. I could get longer winded about this - but I believe the answer is summarized above. The cited articles above go into longer arguments and defenses if one is interested in further reading - and I would encourage further reading if one still has questions.
Let Us Pray for Memory
As I promised earlier, I am returning to the subject of Pope Francis and the Holy Ghost.
Who is the Holy Ghost? What memory of Him do you have?
On the Monday before Pentecost, the Holy Father set the tone for the week.
He focused on the Holy Spirit who, he said, helps Christians remember the history of the faith and the gifts God has given. Without this grace, he said, the faithful risk slipping into idolatry.
Many Christians don’t know who the Holy Spirit is or what he is, he said, and the Holy Spirit “is always somewhat ‘the unknown’ of the faith.” And yet, he continued, the Holy Spirit is “God active in us” and “awakens our memory” of how Christ redeemed us of our misery and sin.
Without this memory, a Christian is not a true Christian, but becomes an “idolator,” the Pope went on, a “prisoner of circumstance, a man or woman who has no history.” To remember the grace of God is especially important, he said, when, for example, “a little vanity creeps in, when someone believes themselves to be a winner of the Nobel Prize for Holiness.”
The Holy Father concluded with an invitation to Christians to ask for the grace of memory, so that “they will not forget that they were slaves, and the Lord has saved them.”
Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/pope-francis-and-the-holy-spirit#ixzz2UMwsRofoI'm impressed with the point that one who does not "remember" who the Holy Ghost is - is not really a true Christian, but an idolator! Can one be "saved" who is considered to be an idolator? Methinks not. This leads us to a more recent statement from one of Pope Francis' daily homilies, wherein some think the Pope is teaching Universalism. As an example, here is one such blog/article which apparently is attempting to draw that conclusion:
Catholicism gone catholic
According to Il Papa:
[Pope Francis] told the story of a Catholic who asked a priest if even atheists had been redeemed by Jesus.
"Even them, everyone," the pope answered, according to Vatican Radio. "We all have the duty to do good," he said.
"Just do good, and we'll find a meeting point," the pope said in a hypothetical reply to the hypothetical comment...
Of course, if Jesus has "redeemed" "everyone" including atheists, then why is doing good a "duty"? Why bother to do good?
Or are we all redeemed, but some are more redeemed than others?
If so, then I suppose one can do good to merit a bigger mansion in heaven. Or a place closer to the throne of God.
Okay, but still, what's wrong with the atheist who says, "Well, if it's all the same to you, I'd rather enjoy the fleeting pleasures of sin in this world, and have a lower place in heaven, thankyouverymuch"?
I responded on that blog with this:
Scott5/26/2013 12:16 AM
Brian said: Yeah, I was just speaking of the inceasing number of Catholics who believe in Universal Salvation, including apparently now the Pope.
sw: First off, this pope dies not believe in Universalism. Just because he stated the fact that Atheists are redeemed does not mean Athiests are or will be saved. To be redeemed simply means that the price for someone's redemption has been paid - and that price HAS been paid by Jesus Christ - for everyone, including Atheists. The difference between an Atheist and a true Christian is that the true Christian ACCEPTS this FREE GIFT or GRACE, the Atheist rejects it.
sw: Secondly, the context of the statement - which Patrick actually kind of includes here - does not say Atheists can be saved by doing good - only that we are ALL, Atheists included, commanded to do good. If the Atheist does good, Pope Francis is saying, then he and they can meet in that place, of doing good. A starting point, or common ground upon which to plant seeds and grow fruit.
sw: Thirdly, this pope has actually taught a form of "EENS" (Latin acronym of Extra Ecclesiam Nulla salus - or Outside the Church there is No Salvation). Pope Francis said that people cannot be fully united to Jesus outside of the Church during a Mass to commemorate Saint George, the saint he is named after. “You cannot find Jesus outside the Church,” he said April 23 in the Apostolic Palace’s Pauline Chapel.
Jimmy Akin responds here: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/did-pope-francis-say-that-atheists-can-get-to-heaven-by-good-works
It will be interesting to see how much more "spin" is put on this out-of-context statement from Pope Francis.
Pope Francis and the Holy Ghost
http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/pope-francis-and-the-holy-spirit/
Pope Francis preaches on the Holy Ghost in us. If we do not keep this in our memory, we risk slipping into idolatry.
More later...
Laetare Sunday
The Fourth Sunday in Lent is called "Laetare Sunday" coming from the first words of the Introit in the Mass. Laetare means "joyful" in Latin. The vestments are rose (pink), like on Gaudete (which similarly means "rejoice").
The Twelve Fruits of the Holy Spirit
Today our priest's sermon was on the Fruits of the Holy Spirit, and he focused upon the "joyful" aspect. The twelve Fruits of the Holy Spirit are charity (or love), joy, peace, patience, benignity (or kindness), goodness, longanimity (or long suffering), mildness, faith, modesty, continency, and chastity.
First of all, we must consider what a "fruit" is. A fruit is something which comes from something else. For example, the orange tree preexists the orange, which is the fruit of the orange tree. The Holy Spirit is what precedes the Fruits of the Holy Spirit, obviously but an important factor to contemplate here is in order for a tree to produce fruit, it must be cultivated. In order for the Holy Spirit to produce fruit in a person there must be cultivation and growth of the Holy Spirit within that person. Baptism infuses Sanctifying Grace (the Holy Spirit) into a person - but if nothing is done to cultivate the Holy Spirit within that person, then there will never be any fruit.
Charity/Love comes first. If we have charity/love then we will have joy. Joy brings peace. Peace brings patience and so on. And here on Laetare Sunday we are focused on joyfulness. God is love, and when we are thinking on God - we are brought into joyfulness, for love brings joy. When we think of anyone we love, we attain the fruit of joy. If your memory is on a lost loved one - focus your attention on the joy that person brought you - and that fruit is yours!
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