The Fifth Sunday of Lent!
On this day we hear in the Introit (Extraordinary Rite) -
On this day we hear in the Introit (Extraordinary Rite) -
Jesus also cautions that once the unclean spirit is cast out of a person, that spirit wanders around looking for a new place to rest - and not finding any, it sees the soul it once inhabited, and it is all cleaned and swept, so the unclean spirit returns and brings with it seven other spirits even more wicked and thus the last state of the person is worse than the first! Be on your guard! When you have just gone to Confession and have had your "house cleaned" - you are vulnerable to being re-inhabited and potentially be in a worse state than before! Remain strong in your prayers! When you sense temptation returning, pray even harder that you not be turned! Again, so much for the Protestant notion of Once Saved, Always Saved...
November 1, 1995, James wrote: https://www.aomin.org/aoblog/roman-catholicism/catholic-answers-myth-or-reality-a-refutation-of-patrick-madrids-article-the-white-mans-burden-and-a-defense-of-sola-scriptura/
The actual debate can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR7_Cge-p6o
"Paul is not speaking about the extent of the canon but the nature of Scripture itself as originating in God."
I'm surprised that Madrid did not pounce upon this sooner! Yes, Madrid does not come back to this topic until just before the Cross-Examination Round, but I don't know how much more White could have said. In White's 2012 response (to this same debate) he said "That
is what I was inviting Mr. Madrid to do: show us another “infallible
rule of faith.” He came up with exactly one example in response: the
canon of the NT. We will discuss later why this effort failed." There were no time constraints upon him in this 2012 response, and yet even though he stated he would "get back to this later," the only mentioning of the canon after that point was this: "It
would be profitable to examine Madrid’s statements on the canon of
Scripture, and note how he had to move away from the Old Testament and
use only the New (since the historical reality of the formation of the
OT canon refutes his position). But such will have to be left for
another time." So, even when he has all the time in the world to respond - White has not "lifted the burden."
White then proceeds to tout that in the last 15 years (he recorded this vlog in 2008) that he has learned so much about sola scriptura, he's written books on the subject, defended the subject in debates, etc. In short, he's setting himself up as the final word on sola scriptura - or at least A final word.
White brings out the allegation that Patrick Madrid claims he will resist from bringing out the 52 pages of Early Church Fathers so that he does not bury White in the quotes. White scoffs and anachronistically mentions that he has the third volume of the King/Webster series on sola scriptura with over 300 pages of quotes allegedly supporting sola scriptura. Even if the King/Webster volume was as authoritative as White insinuates it is, and he doesn't cite from it, is he not guilty of the same "bluster" he accuses Catholic Answers of?
After all the "bluster" he claims that Madrid touts that we know who wrote the book of Matthew, and the only way we know this is through our tradition. Then White brings up unnamed modern Catholic theologians who claim "we don't know who wrote Matthew." Without facts here to look up, I will not speculate upon who these Catholic scholars are - but I have a pretty good idea to whom White refers. Modernist revisionism aside, we do know who wrote Matthew - and it was St. Matthew the Apostle.
The next part of this vlog is White's 20 minute opening statement from 1993. He begins by accusing that there are always some who refuse to give Scripture its proper position. He quotes St. Basil stating that in matters of dispute we should allow Scripture to decide between us and on which ever side we find doctrines in harmony with the Word of God, in favor of that side will be cast the favor of truth. Then White asks the question, "Is the Bible the sole infallible rule of faith for the Church, or must we have other revelations from God? Do we need the Book of Mormon the writings of the Watchtower... or the so-called unwritten apostolic traditions of Rome?" Now that is NOT what the subject of this debate was! THE subject of the debate was "Does the Bible Teach Sola Scriptura?" Next White cleverly manipulates the title of the debate, stating, "Does the Bible teach its own sufficiency to act as the sole rule of faith for the Church?" Let us note, loud and clear, this is NOT a debate about "sufficiency" but rather "sola." The bait and switch is in place.
Following the bait and switch above, White begins his actual debate by defining what sola scriptura is NOT.
"First of all, it is not a claim that the Bible contains all knowledge. The Bible is not exhaustive in every detail... but the Bible does not have to be exhaustive to act as the sole rule of faith for the Church."After this he goes on to define:
"Secondly it is not a denial of the Church's authority to teach God's truth."
"Thirdly, it is not a denial that at times God's Word is spoken. Apostolic teaching was authoritative in and of itself. Yet the Apostles (anecdotally) prove their teaching through God's Word."
"And finally, sola scriptura is not a denial of the role of the Holy Spirit in guiding and enlightening the Church."
"What then is sola scriptura?" The doctrine of sola scriptura simply stated is that the Scriptures, and the Scriptures alone, are sufficient to function as the regula fide, the rule of faith of the Church. All that one must believe to be a Christian is found in Scripture and in no other source. That which is not found in Scripture is not binding upon the Christian conscience.Note again, the change in topic! White continues to try to make sufficiency the matter of the debate, and not "sola." He continues bringing up concepts of sufficiency and has abandoned sola, and then states, "The Scriptures are self-consistent, self-interpreting, and self-authenticating." Well, so he claims, but he doesn't state where Scripture itself, or shall we say Scripture alone, teaches these doctrines. So, since these are "not found in Scripture" - then they are "not binding upon the Christian conscience." White defeats himself in his opening argument! If the subject of this debate were "satis scriptura"- well, let us not fall for the bait and switch!
Now, given this, I would like to explain how I plan on winning my debate this evening with Mr. Madrid. Sola scriptura is both a positive and a negative statement. Positively, the doctrine teaches that the Bible is sufficient to function as the sole, infallible rule of faith for the Church. Negatively, it denies the existence of any other rule of faith as being necessary for the man of God. Hence, logically, I must do the following things:Well, again, the topic of the debate is NOT to show the Bible is sufficient, period. All discussion of sufficiency is nothing more than a red herring argument intended to draw the audience off the scent of the REAL subject - which, again, is "Does the Bible Teach Sola Scriptura?" Whether or not Scripture refers to "another rule of faith" is irrelevant! If the Bible does not teach "sola" then the teaching falls under its own weight.
- First, I must demonstrate that the Bible teaches that it is A rule of faith for the Church.
- Secondly, I must demonstrate that the Bible is sufficient to function as the sole rule of faith for the Church, that is, I must demonstrate its sufficiency, or in the language used in the New Testament itself, that the Bible is artios.
- And, thirdly, I must demonstrate that the Bible as a sufficient rule of faith does not refer us to any other rule of faith.
IF this debate were about me having to prove there is no other authority that would be like me holding up my pen, yes, my pen, and declaring there is no other pen like this in the universe. How would I go about proving it? To prove there is no other pen like this in the universe I would have to go through all your purses, all your shirt pockets, all the stores in the world which carry pens, go through all the houses on the earth, go to the moon, all the planets in the solar system and the entire universe, looking for another pen like this. Well, of course, I could not do that. But you see it would be very easy for Mr. Madrid to win this debate. All he would have to do is go out and get a Cross Medalist pen, walk up here, hold it next to mine and say, "See, another pen just like yours." And he has won the debate. In light of this, I would assert that Mr. Madrid must either recognize this reality and not attempt to win this debate by doing nothing more than relying upon an illogical demand, or he must demonstrate the existence of "the other pen."Actually, White has merely set the terms of this debate in black and white terms (another common fallacy in debate) and has insisted upon either the absurd or that Madrid present something which is not the topic of the debate! Remember, the topic of the debate is "Does the Bible Teach Sola Scriptura?" In short, White is attempting to set an impossible premise for Madrid to fulfill. That being said, as we have already seen, that "other pen" DOES exist IN SCRIPTURE, (Matthew 16:18 and 18:18), so White - even in his own fallacious terms - has clearly lost the debate.
So, what have YOU given up for Lent? If you have not yet given up something, consider ADDING something - like a regular prayer routine. First, that's a great thing to get in the habit of doing and even continuing after Lent - and second, it gives you an opportunity not only for more prayer but also to reflect on the Passion of our Lord - celebrated just 6 weeks from now.
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